Found on the Web: MDL Zork sourcecode

[lusol%]

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly to
implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two of them are
doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in Glulx Inform.
(not me, though it IS tempting)
--
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

[Doug McIntyre]

Post by lusol%

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly to
implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two of them are
doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in Glulx Inform.
(not me, though it IS tempting)
--
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

You do know you are replying to a post from over a dozen years ago, right?
Anyway, the FORTRAN source is widely available.

[lusol%]

Post by Doug McIntyre

Post by lusol%

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly to
implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two of them are
doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in Glulx Inform.
(not me, though it IS tempting)
--
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue." But extreme restriction of liberty in pursuit of
a modicum of security is a very expensive vice.

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

You do know you are replying to a post from over a dozen years ago, right?
Anyway, the FORTRAN source is widely available.
--
Doug McIntyre

And yet I got a reply, facsinating. Thank you. I did find source for Dungeon 2 and 3, just a hour ago. My source came from the version 2 DECUS version and I ported it to Control Data Cyber mainframes around 1980. I just revived that code for x86-64 (Mac and Linux), along with Adventure. For gfortram, pgf77 and ifort, and was wondering if it was OK to post the entire package online for all. Included are my maps from then, too... thanks.

[David Griffith]

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Post by Doug McIntyre

Post by lusol%

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly
to implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two
of them are doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in
Glulx Inform. (not me, though it IS tempting)

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

You do know you are replying to a post from over a dozen years ago, right?
Anyway, the FORTRAN source is widely available.

And yet I got a reply, facsinating. Thank you. I did find source for
Dungeon 2 and 3, just a hour ago. My source came from the version 2
DECUS version and I ported it to Control Data Cyber mainframes around
1980. I just revived that code for x86-64 (Mac and Linux), along with
Adventure. For gfortram, pgf77 and ifort, and was wondering if it was
OK to post the entire package online for all. Included are my maps
from then, too... thanks.

I fear that the newsservers wouldn't kindly take to that unless you post
the source in ascii and chop it up into decently-sized pieces. If you
can tar it up with a nice Makefile and some documentation, it would be a
nice thing to upload to the IF Archive.

[g***@gmail.com]

Post by David Griffith

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Post by Doug McIntyre

Post by lusol%

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly
to implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two
of them are doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in
Glulx Inform. (not me, though it IS tempting)

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

You do know you are replying to a post from over a dozen years ago, right?
Anyway, the FORTRAN source is widely available.

And yet I got a reply, facsinating. Thank you. I did find source for
Dungeon 2 and 3, just a hour ago. My source came from the version 2
DECUS version and I ported it to Control Data Cyber mainframes around
1980. I just revived that code for x86-64 (Mac and Linux), along with
Adventure. For gfortram, pgf77 and ifort, and was wondering if it was
OK to post the entire package online for all. Included are my maps
from then, too... thanks.

I fear that the newsservers wouldn't kindly take to that unless you post
the source in ascii and chop it up into decently-sized pieces. If you
can tar it up with a nice Makefile and some documentation, it would be a
nice thing to upload to the IF Archive.
--
David Griffith

I have a tarball here:

http://www.bigcatos.com/BigCatOs/TAG.html

[g***@gmail.com]

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Post by David Griffith

Post by lusol%

Post by Doug McIntyre

Post by lusol%

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly
to implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two
of them are doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in
Glulx Inform. (not me, though it IS tempting)

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

You do know you are replying to a post from over a dozen years ago, right?
Anyway, the FORTRAN source is widely available.

And yet I got a reply, facsinating. Thank you. I did find source for
Dungeon 2 and 3, just a hour ago. My source came from the version 2
DECUS version and I ported it to Control Data Cyber mainframes around
1980. I just revived that code for x86-64 (Mac and Linux), along with
Adventure. For gfortram, pgf77 and ifort, and was wondering if it was
OK to post the entire package online for all. Included are my maps
from then, too... thanks.

I fear that the newsservers wouldn't kindly take to that unless you post
the source in ascii and chop it up into decently-sized pieces. If you
can tar it up with a nice Makefile and some documentation, it would be a
nice thing to upload to the IF Archive.
--
David Griffith

http://www.bigcatos.com/BigCatOs/TAG.html

OK, and I just uploaded to the IF Archive, thanks for the pointer.

[g***@gmail.com]

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Post by David Griffith

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Post by Doug McIntyre

Post by lusol%

You can easily disassemble any of the Zorks down to their raw text,
which is about the only use of the MDL source code (unless you are one
of those nutty people who still program with it).

There's probably four people on this newsgroup working feverishly
to implement an MDL subset just so they can run the MDL Zork. Two
of them are doing it in elisp, one in Prolog, and the last in
Glulx Inform. (not me, though it IS tempting)

I have FORTRAN source code .. is it legal to post?

You do know you are replying to a post from over a dozen years ago, right?
Anyway, the FORTRAN source is widely available.

And yet I got a reply, facsinating. Thank you. I did find source for
Dungeon 2 and 3, just a hour ago. My source came from the version 2
DECUS version and I ported it to Control Data Cyber mainframes around
1980. I just revived that code for x86-64 (Mac and Linux), along with
Adventure. For gfortram, pgf77 and ifort, and was wondering if it was
OK to post the entire package online for all. Included are my maps
from then, too... thanks.

I fear that the newsservers wouldn't kindly take to that unless you post
the source in ascii and chop it up into decently-sized pieces. If you
can tar it up with a nice Makefile and some documentation, it would be a
nice thing to upload to the IF Archive.
--
David Griffith

http://www.bigcatos.com/BigCatOs/TAG.html

OK, and I just uploaded to the IF Archive, thanks for the pointer.

Although there's no indication as of yet that anyone there is aware of the upload :)

[David Griffith]

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http://www.bigcatos.com/BigCatOs/TAG.html

OK, and I just uploaded to the IF Archive, thanks for the pointer.

Although there's no indication as of yet that anyone there is aware of the upload :)

It's in the unprocessed directory and has found its way at least to the
Gopher mirror at gopher://gopher.feedle.net/. It's less clear than most
uploads where it should ultimately go.

[l***@gmail.com]

Well, the source is available.. perhaps the ITS retrohackers can find
themselves a working compiler.

As far as I know, we still haven't found any ITS compiler or interpreter.

We do have the "I see no Zork here" source code, but it's just a short
MIDAS program.

[l***@gmail.com]

A PDP-10 Muddle has now been found.

An MDL Zork version newer than the one from Bob Supnik has been found.

[Adam Thornton]

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A PDP-10 Muddle has now been found.
An MDL Zork version newer than the one from Bob Supnik has been found.

Is that this thread:

https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/12

Or is there newer information than that?

Adam

[d***@davidkinder.co.uk]

Post by Adam Thornton
https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/12
Or is there newer information than that?

I assume what's being referred to is this:
https://github.com/PDP-10/muddle

David

[l***@gmail.com]

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Post by Adam Thornton
https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/12
Or is there newer information than that?

Yes, there is. I'll add to that issue.

Post by d***@davidkinder.co.uk
https://github.com/PDP-10/muddle

Right.

Actually, not only one but two versions now. One ITS version from 1973, and
another TOPS-20 version from around 1982.

[d***@yahoo.co.uk]

Post by l***@gmail.com
Actually, not only one but two versions now. One ITS version from 1973, and
another TOPS-20 version from around 1982.

This is all really interesting. I admire anyone trying to compile a large, 45 year old PDP-10 assembly program!

[Happy MAC XL]

Post by Adam Thornton

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A PDP-10 Muddle has now been found.
An MDL Zork version newer than the one from Bob Supnik has been found.

https://github.com/PDP-10/its/issues/12
Or is there newer information than that?
Adam

One of the guys in our ZIL group is 'porting' Zork from MDL source across to ZIL.

Adam (S)